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mlomker
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| I've heard different things about where the pump and injectors max out, so that is interesting. |
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Kracka
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| Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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| scheides wrote: | Shortly after this pic was taken, Anna walked up and started poking me in the ass and I threatened to kick her in the face...I was frustrated, she didn't like it too much, I felt really bad  Sorry baby. |
Most chicks don't like getting kicked in the face...or getting poked in the ass for that matter. Seems like a fair trade though.  |
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scheides
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| Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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| mlomker wrote: | | I've heard different things about where the pump and injectors max out, so that is interesting. |
I took a quick survey from a few people.
Chad@CBRD said around 350 on his mustang dyno.
diiirk@AWDMotorsports said around 385-390 on his dynojet
shane said he'd guess around 340, but brought up the fact that no one really knows how big the stock injectors are, since they're scaled to 530 in the stock ecu, pretty close to the evo8/9's stock 560's (scaled stock @513 IIRC).
So, I went ahead and thought I'd try find the limit, found it, happy, could probably run like this for a while, nbd. |
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goodhart
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| Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:34 am Post subject: |
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| scheides wrote: |
shane said he'd guess around 340, but brought up the fact that no one really knows how big the stock injectors are, since they're scaled to 530 in the stock ecu, pretty close to the evo8/9's stock 560's (scaled stock @513 IIRC).
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If you felt really ambitious about finding out what the stock injectors flow, when you install the 800's you could always bring them to Ravenworks in Maple Grove and have them flow tested. Not sure how much they charge for just a flow test though. It may be helpful to the X community.
http://www.ravenworksllc.com/index.htm
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scheides
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| Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| goodhart wrote: | | scheides wrote: |
shane said he'd guess around 340, but brought up the fact that no one really knows how big the stock injectors are, since they're scaled to 530 in the stock ecu, pretty close to the evo8/9's stock 560's (scaled stock @513 IIRC).
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If you felt really ambitious about finding out what the stock injectors flow, when you install the 800's you could always bring them to Ravenworks in Maple Grove and have them flow tested. Not sure how much they charge for just a flow test though. It may be helpful to the X community.
http://www.ravenworksllc.com/index.htm |
meh, real world power/setup limits mean more to me & others imho. |
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mlomker
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| Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| scheides wrote: | | pretty close to the evo8/9's stock 560's (scaled stock @513 IIRC). |
I'd previously read that they were 560. AMS did flow tests on the X's pump and injectors when it first came out and I think they stated as much. |
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scheides
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| Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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I got the stock injectors out and the part number on the side of them suggests that they are in fact 600's, which actually seems about right. 600/560=1.07. IX 560s could support about 315whp when really maxed out, add 7% and you get about 340, right where we're at.
DW800's are in, I'm playing around with a few sets of latencies published on the internet to see what's best to start from. Even just bumping the scaling and not touching the latencies the starts and drives pretty damn good! |
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GG_9_SE
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| Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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I need to have someoine with ECUflash play around with my injector scaling. Im still having warm start issues on 1000's, and e85  Car starts amazing when its cold, but if i leave it sit about a half hour after being fully warm it struggles to start. Sorry for thread jack 
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EnjoyDriving
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| Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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why don't you bring it back to DB? Shane should be able to fix that in minutes.
| GG_9_SE wrote: | | I need to have someoine with ECUflash play around with my injector scaling. Im still having warm start issues on 1000's, and e85 Car starts amazing when its cold, but if i leave it sit about a half hour after being fully warm it struggles to start. Sorry for thread jack |
Is it okay to thread jack and stay OT...HELL Yeah
| scheides wrote: | Dude, don't you know that OT is all this forum supports? If you keep a thread on-topic it actually makes the server run slower!
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GG_9_SE
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| Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| EnjoyDriving wrote: | | why don't you bring it back to DB? Shane should be able to fix that in minutes. |
Yea i know, but whenever im in the cities im usually no where close to Rogers. Unless shane is coming to the cookout? Doubtful he wants to work on his day off though
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scheides
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| Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| I haven't checked with shane yet to see his schedule; I'm prepared to dial in the injectors and do some basic tuning on my own and then setup a time whenever he's available to get up there and do a power tune on it. It takes time, but after a few hours I've already got it running and driving pretty decent, a/c and all! |
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murlo26
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| Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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| GG_9_SE wrote: | | EnjoyDriving wrote: | | why don't you bring it back to DB? Shane should be able to fix that in minutes. |
Yea i know, but whenever im in the cities im usually no where close to Rogers. Unless shane is coming to the cookout? Doubtful he wants to work on his day off though |
Shane was reflashing my car last cookout, lol 
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cmspaz
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:23 am Post subject: |
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| scheides wrote: | | I haven't checked with shane yet to see his schedule; I'm prepared to dial in the injectors and do some basic tuning on my own and then setup a time whenever he's available to get up there and do a power tune on it. It takes time, but after a few hours I've already got it running and driving pretty decent, a/c and all! |
Do it Wednesday morning, then we can get lunch and go back for my tune
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mlomker
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:05 am Post subject: |
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| GG_9_SE wrote: | | Yea i know, but whenever im in the cities im usually no where close to Rogers. |
If you have access to a Tactrix cable then he could probably do it via email. I think there are warm start tables that are separate. |
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goodhart
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:20 am Post subject: |
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| scheides wrote: |
meh, real world power/setup limits mean more to me & others imho. |
Yea, but every dyno reads differently too.
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